caller: i'm kind of curious on white america thinks -- why america thinks we can go to afghanistan and make change when the soviets were in afghanistan for many years, lost many, many, many soldiers, and still accomplished nothing. ñhost: mark mazzetti. guest: and british before then. afghanistan is a place -- it is liche now, but it became known as the graveyard of empires, because these great, powerfulç countries went there and got bogged down. that is a lot of the criticism çof expand america's military presence there,çç is that youe % into a place where they are not open the expectt( -- not only accepted, and where they don't understand the culture. now, there are lessons of history that the military say they have learned, and that they will not repeat the soviet experience. however, the caller is right to be concerned about why will the u.s. do this better? after all, it has been 80 years that the u.s. has been there. -- been 8 years that the u.s. has been there. host: where else does the cia have a presence in efforts against al qaeda? guest: well, they have expanded the